Category: Winning at the online dating game

  • He wants to get sexual — online!

    A DG reader writes:

    This has happened a few times so am wondering if it is just me, or is common with midlife guys — or just midlife guys on online dating sites. We begin a fun banter via email or IM. I don’t get dirty with them, just playful. Some time passes — anywhere from an hour to a few weeks. We haven’t met. Their IMs go from playful and flirty to dirty, telling me what they want to do to me, or what they imagine us doing naked, etc., often graphically.

    I say I don’t want to go there. They persist. I sign off. They apologize. Then they start again.

    If I don’t care about the guy, I block his IMs. But if I liked him before he went porno on me, I think I ought to give him a second chance. Should I just put my foot down and say I’m uncomfortable going there? Or should I play along, knowing I’ll never meet some of them anyway? If I play along and then we agree to meet, I’m afraid he’ll jump me as soon as we say hello.

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  • Too-intimate first contact

    DG reader Toni asks:

    What is your sense about men who react to your online profile with a gushing email about how you are probably ‘the one’ for them, etc. and also who make several references to making love, the afterglow, etc. I feel uncomfortable when if a man seems to idealize me without ever meeting me…and also with references to sex, though I certainly like sex…but somehow it seems a bit out-of-form to bring it up in an introductory email. What is your take on all this?

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  • Clothes make the man

    Nearly eighteen months ago a man sent me an email on a dating site where I wasn’t a member. Although he was in the right geographic, age and height range, his pictures showed an unsmiling, sunglasses-wearing, goatee-sporting man in a sports-team T-shirt holding up a newspaper with an unreadable headline. Huh? This is the best picture the man thought represented him to his future match?

    Since I wasn’t a member of the site, I couldn’t read his email, but was allowed to send a site-generated “No thank you” response.

    A year later he showed up on another site where I could see he’d looked at my profile several times. After several months of seeing his picture appear in my “who’s seen you list” I became curious. He’d posted a few more pictures on this site and he looked less off-putting than he did in the one pic on the previous site.

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  • Getting to know a man through Google

    A new man contacted me who held some allure so I promptly did a Google search, armed only with his profile’s unusual alias and his city. A wealth of information was divulged.

    I read the posting he’d made in public forums so could see his comments were thoughtful, articulate, and had correct spelling and punctuation. I agreed with many of his views. Most of us aren’t particularly guarded when we post something to a forum, especially if using an alias. So the fact that he didn’t curse or call other postors idiots — as others in the forums did — showed me he had a sense of appropriateness and decorum.

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  • My boyfriend, whom I haven’t met

    fog manA man has been wooing me the last 6 weeks, first via email while I was abroad, then during daily phone calls, emails and/or text messages.

    We haven’t met, however, because 3 days after I returned home, he was called to his dying mother’s side 2000 miles away. While the doctors told him she only had a few days to live, she lived two weeks, only passing the other day. This week he’s finishing her burial plans and awaiting the rest of the family’s arrival for her funeral next weekend.

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  • “I’m not just some girl you met on the Internet”

    [googmonify]8790107066:right:120:600[/googmonify]Private PracticeA few weeks ago on “Private Practice” two colleagues decided to take their sexual chemistry to the “friends with benefits” level. However, when in the bedroom ready to commence, she couldn’t go through with it, claiming that sex together would cheapen their relationship.

    She exclaims, “I’m not just some girl you met on the Internet.”

    In other words, she’s saying that Internet dating sites are the equivalent to hookup sites — prostitution without payment. Easy sex. Women who list themselves on the sites must be loose.

    Hmmm.

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  • “I’m a nerd!”

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    So said the professor with a Ph.D. and several masters degrees. My Google search revealed a page (not written by him) that called him “a famed professor” in his area of study. Other sites also lauded him. So I thought perhaps he was being modest when saying he was a nerd as he pursued me by sweet, thoughtful emails and phone calls.

    His initial email said he was from out of state — 2000 miles away — but was planning to relocate to my area. I am a sucker for a man with good writing skills, so I responded and soon a vigorous email and phone conversation was launched.

    UrkelWhen I met him a week after his first email, I saw that he was telling the truth. Can you imagine a 56-year-old Steve Urkel? I’m afraid the similarities were scary. Instead of hiked-up pants, he wore an ill-fitting patterned jacket with clashing shirt. His hunched shoulders suggested a form of osteoporosis or some other back malady. But as I stood straighter, so did he, so it seemed more habit than affliction.

    He had braces, which seemed to be helping pull in his buck teeth and closing the gap of several missing ones. This also explained, in part, his lisp. His amblyopia, or lazy eye, kept me guessing which eye to address.

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  • Yuck!

    yuckI feel soiled, sullied, icky. Bad. Horrible. I unknowingly betrayed a good, long-time friend. “How?” you ask. Here’s the story.

    A few months ago a man emailed me from a dating site new to me. We struck up a nice IM conversation. He hadn’t posted a pic, so I asked for one and he promptly obliged. He was average looking, having features similar to many midlife men in my area. But I was drawn by his wit, intelligence and sweetness.

    After a few days of IM and phone conversations, we agreed to lunch. Immediately upon meeting, he kissed me briefly on the lips. A tad forward, I thought. While we stood in line for a table he took my hand. We had a nice lunch conversation. He was better looking in person than his picture. During the after-lunch stroll he put his arm around my waist. After a half block, he stopped and kissed me. Again, I thought a tad early for my taste. We walked some more, and he left me at my car with a promise to call.

    He IMed within minutes of my returning home. He called on his way home from work. We talked about getting together again in a few days. He continued to IM frequently. Two days after the lunch date, we had plans to go to the movies, but he called to say he had an emergency with his teenage daughter so would have to reschedule. We IMed, then talked the next day. Then I got the email quoted in “Is it affection or obsession?

    Today my long-time friend was over and we were chatting. About 18 months ago she married a man she’d met online a year before, on a different site than the one on which this guy found me. I’d met her husband briefly at their wedding, then again a year ago for a few minutes. He was a normal-looking guy without any unusual physical characteristics.

    I realized I didn’t know what her husband did for a living and where he worked. She told me. I said, “That’s interesting. I went out once with a man who does that in the same part of town. And they share the same common first name.” We continued the comparison. I told her of his quick affectionate behavior. She said, “My husband did that on our first date.” Hmmm. She asked if I had his pic. Thanks to my trusty Date-A-Base I did! Plus a copy of his profile and some emails.

    The picture staring back at her was, as you’ve guessed, her husband. I felt sadness and anger for my friend. How could he do this to her? She deserved a great guy, not a two-timing philanderer. She was upset but not as much as I would have been. It seems he did this when they were dating, in what they’d both promised was an exclusive relationship. She thought he had grown up. Obviously he hadn’t.

    In the past he’d explained his addiction to the pursuit of women. He claimed he took it no farther than kissing, and usually cut it off within a few weeks. His self-esteem needed to be constantly reassured he was able to attract women. He knew he had a problem. He thought he could fix this himself, so he kept making excuses for not seeking counseling. Obviously, he was wrong.

    My friend was actually grateful that it was me he’d attempted to woo, as she now had proof of his indiscretions, rather than her suspicions and his vehement denials. He couldn’t lie his way out of this any longer. If he didn’t agree to counseling immediately, she was leaving him.

    I have a mix of remorse, sadness, anger, and in a strange way, gratefulness that I could help catch this Lothario. She should be with a fabulous guy who adores her and would never consider cheating. If this Casanova won’t grow up, I hope she jettisons him so she can have a great man.

    To show what a mature individual she is in the face of this information, she holds no malice toward me, acknowledging that I met him so briefly previously I couldn’t be expected to remember him out of context of being by her side, let alone on a dating site. She was actually appreciative that he hadn’t recognized me either, so she could have the evidence she needed to confront him.

    I know there are myriad stories of married people listing themselves on dating sites. I have encountered only one other who I discovered was married — thanks to a mutual friend — and I declined to meet him. Had I known this one was, I would not have met him either. I don’t like unwittingly being the other woman.

    Looking back, there were no signs that pointed to him being in a relationship. He wasn’t wearing a wedding ring. Since my friend retained her maiden name and I didn’t remember her husband’s last name from the one time I saw it on the wedding invitation, even his using his real last name didn’t raise a red flag.

    I guess this shows that it is good to meet a man’s friends before getting too serious and hope one of them pulls you aside if something is amiss. I have no idea how I would have found out, as he could have easily keep up his ruse for months since she travels a lot. And I don’t know how she would have had indisputable proof if we hadn’t been chit-chatting about her hubby.

  • The power of spelling

    NYSharon brought it up in a comment the other day. I and others have mentioned it before. During a TV interview about online dating a 50-something single woman said it was a pet peeve.

    Spelling.

    Or more accurately, misspellings. (Spell check told me that “misspellings” was wrong, but Dictionary.com says it’s okay.)

    On one hand, you can say this is nitpicking. As shallow as complaints about table manners and wrinkled clothing.

    On the other you can say multiple email or profile typos show carelessness and cluelessness about early impressions.

    email iconSpell check has become so commonplace we can’t imagine someone not employing it. However, some dating sites don’t have it available in their compose-message boxes. Some email software allows you to enable or disable it. Or some people are in such a hurry, they don’t notice those red-underlined words.

    It seems the meticulous spellers have little tolerance for the “creative” spellers. And the latter think the former are a tad bit anal retentive. I am on the fence. I am not naturally a good speller, although ironically I always got an A on my spelling tests. Seems I learned for the test, but then promptly forgot. And I’m not good at remembering the rules of grammar, either. But as an author and publisher and yes, even editor, I’ve had to sear in my mind some common grammar mistakes that are easily overlooked.

    Does this mean my dating emails are flawless? Heavens no! In fact, even though I spell check each blog posting, a dear friend kindly emails my errors on many postings. So I should give my potential suitors a bit more slack since I am afflicted with the same malady.

    This has taught me to compose any dating-site email in Word and spell check it before copying and pasting into the site’s message box. Of course, this is much easier when the site emails come through your own email box, but not all do.

    text messageCuriously, we allow people more leeway in IMs and text messages. The challenge comes when someone employs text message shortcuts (e.g., “u” for “you,” “2” for “to,” “R” for “are,” “8” for “ate”) in regular emails. Most of us midlifers don’t find that acceptable, although younger people think it’s fine. In fact, I’ve heard some use those shortcuts in business emails as well!

    So what to do? I think it’s common sense: Be on your best behavior at first until you’ve built up a “slack bank” — you’ve shown you are intelligent, conscientious, and educated. Then if you slip now and then, he will know it was an anomaly. Also, be conscious of the recipient. If careful spelling and grammar is important to him, then reread your emails before hitting send. And it couldn’t hurt to ask about his spelling sensitivity level — maybe he doesn’t really notice your slips. Unless they are black lace and silk. 🙂

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  • Are you sending off “ready” vibes?

    Talking to a single friend about her dating life, she said, “I’m really not ready, but I do have a profile posted.”

    “Why do you have a profile posted if you’re not interested in actually dating right now?”

    “It puts me in the mood of getting ready.”

    “That’s wise. It opens you up to the possibility of dating, which carries over into real life. You send off more energy that you’re available for romance and men pick that up. I’ve noticed more men flirt with me since I’ve been dating. I think it’s my attitude.”

    Have you been getting ready to get ready to date? If so, why not take the plunge and post your profile on a site or two. If you get any nibbles and aren’t quite ready, you can always politely decline. But it will also help you shift into ready mode more quickly. And who knows who’ll pick up on those vibes and ask you out.

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  • Scantily clothed pictures

    A gal pal new to online dating asked me:

    scantily clothed man“What does it mean when a man offers to send you scantily clad pictures, and you haven’t even talked to him on the phone yet, let alone met?”

    “Sex.”

    “Say more.”

    “When people want to exchange nearly nude — or even nude — pictures, I’ve found it means they are looking for sex, not a relationship. It’s common among that crowd to exchange nude pictures — sometimes just shots of key parts! Since they are only looking for intimate encounters, it really doesn’t matter what the rest of you looks like. They just want to make sure the equipment is to their liking.”

    “No!”

    “Yep. One friend showed me a site where people post nude pics with their face cropped off.”

    “Amazing.”

    “Where did you meet this guy?”

    Yahoo Personals.”

    “This is a bit unusual for a YP contact, but not unexpected. There are other sites that cater to sexual hookups.”

    “This guy also asked if I had ‘additional pics’ to share, even though I have 8 posted on the site.”

    “He was wanting nude shots, and wanted to see if you’d know what he was talking about.”

    “So should I continue to communicate with this guy?”

    “Only if you are looking for a sex-only encounter. By the way, I’ve also had men ask me my bra size in the second email, and one sent me a list of questions he wanted me to answer, including intimate details. So these guys let their intentions be known early on, even if they aren’t explicit in their profile saying they want a sex-only encounter.”

    Have you experienced inquiries from men who got too intimate too soon? How did you deal with them?

    BTW, that is a pic of Bernie Barker, who Guinness dubbed the oldest male stripper before he passed away last March at age 66.

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